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SomeNYDude (he/him)'s avatar

Remarkable research and findings! Given the data we are in a coldhouse. I’m not sure humanity can adopt to 42°C tropical ocean temps without lots of wars.

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Silvia Pineda-Munoz PhD's avatar

Famine may come first, which may lead to wars. It'd indeed be very hard to navigate, and I'm not looking forward to it

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SomeNYDude (he/him)'s avatar

Dr, are you saying I have to enjoy snow and cold? I suppose we should enjoy it while we have it. Is there any way we can radiate such warmth to space? Similar to a heat pump?

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Silvia Pineda-Munoz PhD's avatar

well, some warmer regions may get more snow than they are used to, some others less. The thing is that we may get what our ecosystems aren't adapted to: a recipe for failure.

I fear that, with the size of the Earth, building such a technology would involve more resources and materials than the Earth can provide, so our best bet is to simply reduce emissions and hope we still have time

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SomeNYDude (he/him)'s avatar

Sensible post, Dr. China has become an electrostate, and they will spread that technology to whoever wants it. Earth warming is baked in. The race is on how much we can reduce the impact.

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Dr Deborah Vinall's avatar

Wise people learn from history. Fools disregard...

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Kirby Schlaht's avatar

Thanks for this Doc. Very interesting stuff. I must take the Phanerozoic temperature reconstruction with a few grains of salt however. First, this reconstruction was based on proxies and an energy balance model with CO2 as the driver – of course it’s CO2. In 2000, geochemist Jan Veizer published proxy evidence (Nature 408(6813):698-701) that during the Phanerozoic, CO2 was associated with, but uncoupled from and not the principal driver of climate variability on geological timescales conflicting with a CO2 forced energy balance model in Judd. Food for thought.

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Silvia Pineda-Munoz PhD's avatar

Thanks for your insights and expertise. I will read those, but I can say you have a point

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